Facebook – Effective Altruism group discussion of UBI
Kaya Diguistini 12 Aug 2:09am
[ 12/8/20 ]
I do not see UBI as any sort of final stable state, and it does seem to very probably be a necessary part of any effective transition strategy to get us to sets of social systems that do actually deliver some reasonable approximation to long term security and liberty for all.
In the presence of advanced automation (which we have and need to solve several levels of existential risk present), then the existing competitive systems tend to ever greater concentration of wealth, leading to increasing probability of multiple levels of failure within necessary systems.
UBI can ensure that everyone has enough to survive, without placing any limits on how much anyone can have (in and of itself – the nature of the systems and resources present does however impose many levels of limits that require high tech and cooperative activity to create effective ways of working through – ways that respect all real systemic limitations).
Most of the real work required to produce the goods and services purchased by such tokens can actually be produced by fully automated systems – so for the first time in human history such an approach does not require slavery at any level. That does actually make it a real possibility.